2011/08/29 Ad Hoc Committee Meeting 00:00:00 Meeting in progress - Fisheries and Oceans correction 00:00:42 Gary Leveck questions EA process - cautioned that committee opinions may derail process 00:03:50 Still talking abut scope and mandate 00:04:47 Councillor Bowman speaks about mandate and popular opinion is no basis for EA 00:07:00 Uncomfortable with Mayor's direction to committee re EA process 00:07:55 Jay Kirkland speaks regarding council need for science to help decision making 00:11:00 Addendum 3 is in progress and has no expiry and has not been approved 00:12:50 Member Leveck thinks EA is flawed and would not pass MoE 00:15:11 Septic Plumes - Mr. Palmateer could not attend 00:15:50 Tests around septic beds needed to determine if water being affected 00:20:42 Adopt meeting minutes from last meeting 00:21:53 Delegations - Gary Palmateer unable to attend - will come Sept 26th 00:24:00 Member Schofield discusses testing to determin sources of ecoli 00:25:50 Dr Crowe cannot present and not prepared to present to committee - expertise is the beach 00:26:50 Dr Crowe's opinion is that septic systems are not polluting the beach 00:31:20 Councillor Bowman submits questions to Mr Palmateer for response later 00:37:06 Future scope regarding septic tank haulers 00:38:00 Chairman Roberts explains what septic haulers currently do 01:04:35 Member Leveck asks about a subsidized septic pumping and inspection system 01:14:30 Member Schofield talks about Tara dumping primary treated effluent into Sauble River 01:18:40 5 minute break 01:19:15 New Business - councillor Bowman wants information on dry toilets and composting toilets 01:22:00 Councillor questions the need to be looking at solutions now 01:26:00 Councillor Bowman will bring information on toilet options to next meeting 01:26:26 Action Items - GSCA CURB Reports 01:27:45 Provision of Bylaws to committee 01:28:00 Nicole Weber - not available for 2 months; does committee still want to have her present. 01:32:45 Chairman Roberts says he will deal with Mr Palmateer and Ms Weber 01:35:43 Mr Dwyer talks about Ms Weber, a friend of the Assistant MPW 01:38:45 MPW Dwyer to contact Ms Weber - committee votes to approve funds for Ms Weber 01:40:06 MPW Dwyer asks about having Mr Palmateer and Ms Weber at the same meeting 01:41:08 Motion carried 01:41:25 Health Unit report - possibility of getting info from provincial labs 01:43:10 Summary of map and groundwater studies 01:45:50 Request to COW to extend date 01:46:36 Chairman Roberts will start on an abstract report 01:47:47 Councillor Kirkland questions whether scientific test results will be available for report 01:51:00 Councillor Kirkland says council needs info for budgeting for testing 01:52:00 MPW suggests that Mr Palmateer and Ms Weber could advise on frequency, duration, and costs of teting 01:54:36 Member Schofield believes we need to start testing 01:55:40 Member Leveck believes we need to involve First Nations - discussions have been mediocre 01:57:05 MPW says says there has been discussion, with the SON, not in print 01:57:29 suggestion was made that we can size the plant, if there is a need for sewers, to also pick up what is on the First Nations land. And it wasn't rejected. Also there was a discussion at the same time to take water to the south end of the beach from French Bay to 2nd Avenue 01:58:22 the partnership that was suggested that we could supply sewer and First Nations would supply water. 01:59:51 Addendum 3 option 5, excludes first nations properties 02:01:20 Bowman suggests it is premature to contact SON 02:02:44 No mention in addendum to handle First Nations. Discussions with SON should be in addendum 02:03:29 MPW says staged plan to build sewers could handle more in the future 02:04:30 Member Leveck believes the phased plan asking for 70 million at once is wrong and funding should fe sught for each phase individually 02:05:45 MPW says through talks with ministry and ministers we are not ging to see 2/3 funding for $70 million dollars 02:06:20 The province is not going to fund it all at once 02:06:58 ESR report is not clear and is incorrect in regards to funding and user co-pay 02:09:00 Councillor Kirkland want to hear from all sides so that all are on the same page 02:10:22 Discussions with SON should be public and transparent 02:13:00 MPW says studies will need to be done that will definately involve SON 02:13:40 What is happening with septic inspections - add to agenda 02:14:20 Council wants to wait for legislation from province before starting reinspection program 02:20:44 Big question is do we need sewage system - reinspection must be for whole town 02:24:40 Next meeting Sept 26, 2011 02:25:10 Adjourn