2011/10/18 Committee of the Whole Meeting Part 1 ============Notes from official Town recording (not included in SaubleSewer.com recording) 00:00:00 1. ATTENDANCE AND REGRETS Mayor Close will arrive late Jackson is Chair 00:00:19 2. NOTICE OF PECUNIARY INTEREST AND GENERAL NATURE THEREOF Councillor Bowman - no alternate 00:00:37 3. PUBLIC NOTICES/GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS 3.1. Public Notice-Special Meeting of Council, November 8, 2011 00:01:05 4. DELEGATIONS 4.1. 10:30 am Catherine Smart, PLAY in Bruce Grey (10 min) 4.2. 11:15 am Bill DeAngelis, Garry Drachenberg and Elia Edwards, Associated Engineering-Oliphant Water Treatment Plant (1 hour) 4.3. 2:00 pm Christina Bruce, DPRA-Strategic Plan Update (1 hour) 00:01:17 5. STAFF REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS 5.1. Consent Agenda Listing NOTE: Committee members may pull any items for discussion NOTE: Any items pulled will be noted in the second paragraph of the resolution 00:04:32 Resolution for Approval of Consent Agenda Not Pulled 5.4. FC13-2011 Fire Statistics 5.5. FC15-2011 Fire Statistics 5.8. CLK58-2011 Grey-Bruce West Sauble Sno-Riders, 2011-2012 Land Use Permission 5.10. AFC3-2011 Wrap-Up Report 5.12. PW92-2011 Pre-Budget Approval 2012 Conventions and Seminars 5.15. PW95-2011 Variance to Budget-Hepworth Community Centre Pulled 5.2. MLEO15-2011 Report August and September 5.3. MLEO16-2011 Amendment to Traffic By-Law 5.6. SWSRAHC2-2011 Extension of Ad Hoc Committee and Council ESR Consideration Date 5.7. CBO27-2011 Building Statistics 5.9. CLK59-2011 Procedural By-Law Update 5.11. PW91-2011 Variance to Budget-Traffic Light Maintenance 5.13. PW93-2011 Water Meter Installations Status Update 5.14. PW94-2011 Variance to Budget-Amabel-Sauble Water System SCADA 5.16. PW96-2011 Bluewater Park Campground Rates 5.17. PW97-2011 Hope Bay Roads 5.18. FS49-2011 Monthly Financial Report-October 10, 2011 5.19. FS50-2011 RFP FS01-2011 Audit Services 00:05:15 Carried ============Notes from SaubleSewer.com recording 00:00:15 Carried 00:03:50 5.2. MLEO15-2011 Report August and September Bowman asks about weddings on the beach - rules are in policy and procedures manual Much discussion about other charges in report with bylaw officer 00:10:59 5.3. MLEO16-2011 Amendment to Traffic By-Law Bowman and Kirkland ask for clarification 00:13:25 5.6. SWSRAHC2-2011 Extension of Ad Hoc Committee and Council ESR Consideration Date 00:14:14 Mayor Close arrives assumes chair 00:15:50 5.6. SWSRAHC2-2011 Extension of Ad Hoc Committee and Council ESR Consideration Date 00:16:20 Kirkland addresses council 00:18:20 McKenzie 00:18:47 Bowman speaks about Mr Palmateer coming 00:19:40 Kirkland 00:19:50 Close asks question about testing 00:20:20 Kirkland answers 00:21:18 McKenzie asks when MOE steps in 00:21:50 Kirkland/Bowman answer 00:22:11 Jackson 00:23:00 Bowman 00:23:20 McKenzie/Kirkland four seasons testing 00:24:20 Close asks for clarification 00:25:30 Jackson recognizes committee volunteers council needs to find money to do testing 00:28:00 Jackson says proper testing takes time; disappointed no movement so far 00:28:38 Turner says MOE must have some testing protocol 00:29:00 Bowman responds 00:31:00 Bowman mentions the ESR 00:32:00 Close speaks about doing the right testing; 2016 is deadline 00:32:50 Bowman asks about interdepartmental implications; Rhonda responds 00:36:35 carried 00:37:00 5.7. CBO27-2011 Building Statistics waiting for CBO 00:37:44 5.11. PW91-2011 Variance to Budget-Traffic Light Maintenance 00:40:11 carried 00:40:20 5.7. CBO27-2011 Building Statistics CBO and Rhonda answer questions 00:50:00 carried - happy birthday 00:52:00 5.9. CLK59-2011 Procedural By-Law Update 00:52:24 5 minute break 00:52:40 5.9. CLK59-2011 Procedural By-Law Update 00:52:45 McKenzie/Cook closed session agenda discussion 00:57:00 Jackson will vote against because of send back options 00:57:50 McKenzie says majority of council to send it back 00:58:30 Mayor Close talks about confidential info for county council closed sessions 00:59:00 Bowman wants schedule 'B'; what is defamatory 01:00:40 McKenzie responds 01:01:45 Close explains why schedule 'B' was removed 01:03:20 McKenzie says deciding what should and should not be on schedule 'B' puts pressure on staff 01:03:45 Turner - web site being used as a blog / platform 01:04:35 Jackson alludes to 'one person' spoiling it for everyone 01:06:49 Kirkland asks if removal of schedule 'B' has sped up response to public; CAO says not yet 01:08:50 CAO wants to go through list 01:09:14 defer until after delegation 4. DELEGATIONS 01:10:15 4.1. 10:30 am Catherine Smart, PLAY in Bruce Grey (10 min) 5. STAFF REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS 01:31:00 5.9. CLK59-2011 Procedural By-Law Update (continued) 01:31:35 CAO reviews changes 01:34:05 motion for 3rd reading to go forward, carried 01:36:45 5.13. PW93-2011 Water Meter Installations Status Update Bowman questions charges; Jackson agrees should only pay difference Turner asks about installation issues McKenzie asks about costing; Kirkland responds and asks what dollar amount are we talking about Turner was cost with Neptune reduced because people did not install meters defer until after lunch 4. DELEGATIONS 01:56:00 4.2. 11:15 am Bill DeAngelis, Garry Drachenberg and Elia Edwards, Associated Engineering-Oliphant Water Treatment Plant (1 hour) 03:03:08 Break for Lunch