2012/09/18 Council Meeting 00:00:00 Call to order 00:00:45 8.5 conflict for J. Close 00:01:15 Before closed - delegations will be kept to their time lots 00:01:35 Motion for Closed 00:02:38 In Closed 00:02:48 Return from closed - no mention of land claim 00:04:00 Sgt Young not present for delegation 00:04:15 Item 6 - adopt council minutes 00:04:30 carried 00:05:15 adopt minutes of committees of council 00:05:30 carried 00:06:00 Staff reports to council 00:06:15 Check property stakes re SBDC - $$ from septic reinspection program 00:08:05 Mayor Close says a single property cannot be singled out - all properties should be treated equally 00:09:00 Turner questions fiscal liability - ramifications 00:10:15 McKenzie wants to know whos stakes are being checked 00:14:30 Turner says gate can just be moved back and cause more damage to the dunes 00:15:00 Jackson wants to pursue 00:15:58 carried 00:16:20 Room capacity reached 00:17:45 Sgt Mark Young presentation 00:18:26 Presentation to Sgt Young on retirement 00:22:10 8.2 Extend contract with BWDSB for 20 years 00:22:50 Jackson speaks about agreement 00:24:00 150 permits for use after hours 00:24:35 70 day care families 00:26:20 Clerk speaks about accommodation review committee 00:27:00 McKenzie speaks about letter of intent 00:29:30 Jackson and Klages volunteer 00:30:00 carried 00:30:22 motion re appointment to accommodation review 00:30:50 carried 00:31:20 Delegation re Wind Turbines 00:31:55 Ana Vukovic 00:32:45 presentation begins 00:46:00 presentation ends - questions from council 00:47:00 Bowman and Jackson support motion 00:49:11 Close questions Ana about consultation with SON 00:50:00 *** Mayor questioned about meetings wth proponents 00:50:55 Ana asks to leave door open 00:51:15 *** Mayor does not want to hear from audience 00:52:15 *** Jackson questions Mayor re meetings 00:52:33 Close says for information purposes 00:52:55 McKenzie questions resolution 00:53:45 McKenzie supports resolution 00:54:00 Bowman brings forward resolution TSBP does not support wind turbines 00:55:00 carried - applause 00:57:15 8.3 Crowley Mobile Canteen - business licence 00:59:00 McKenzie asks if invoice was sent 01:00:00 No letter sent in 2010 01:01:20 Town screwed up - Neifer says they should pay for 2010 01:02:30 Close has question re legal aspect; by-law must need to be waived; wants deferral to next week 01:03:30 McKenzie questions why person didn't seek invoice when they should know they needed one 01:04:43 carried 01:05:05 Delegation at 2:30 has been cancelled due to sudden health issue 01:05:34 Councillor Klages takes chair 01:05:10 8.4 Remove posts at North Oliphant 01:06:40 Turner speaks to resolution - not sure Town has control of lakebed 01:08:30 Insurance company says trench may make Town liable 01:09:30 Costing thousands of dollars 01:11:20 McKenzie says trenches are the problem 01:11:50 Bowman speaks - no legal opinion received yet 01:12:16 Turner agrees - remove all posts - why invite liability 01:13:05 Thompson asks if liability is issue, not parking 01:13:25 Bowman speaks - potentially more liability - post are to protect public 01:14:20 Turner asks Clerk if property is the Town's to control 01:14:40 Clerk paraphrases letter from MoE - Town should also seek legal advice 01:15:30 Clerk says ownership is not clear 01:16:05 Jackson says people want posts left in place 01:16:44 Close speaks - cautions that legal opinion should be sought 01:17:40 Turner agrees with Mayor - not removing ignores advise of Insurer and OPP and other public 01:18:30 McKenzie asks Bowman to clarify legal ramificatios 01:18:50 Bowman responds - safety concern 01:19:50 Turner disagrees 01:21:20 Bowman asks if MNR or MOE were consulted/considered. Asks for documents from Insurer or OPP. 01:22:00 Turner responds ... nothing from Ministries, OPP personal visit, Turner spoke to Insurance representative ... nothing in writing 01:23:45 Councillor Jackson - two sides feuding ... why take sides 01:24:15 Turner responds 01:25:15 McKenzie says people don't like posts 450 signatures on petition; references 8.1(?) SBDC resolution 01:27:00 Jackson has seen nothing in writing 01:27:30 Turner did not question veracity of other statements; why is his veracity in question 01:28:10 McKenzie speaks 01:28:30 Turner calls question 01:29:00 Close asks question - Turner makes change to motion to request posts be removed 01:30:10 Turner wants to make change to motion 01:30:55 Reading of Motion 01:31:14 carried 01:31:45 break then into closed for 1 hr 01:31:58 recommendation to go into closed - Sauble Land Claim 01:32:10 direction from closed - for information purposes only 01:32:40 8.5 recommendation to recognize need for CAO 01:34:20 Bowman has questions - disappointed management committee is not working 01:35:40 not supporting some organizational changes 01:36:28 Jackson speaks - if CAO is going to carry ball then organizational review should be undet CAO control 01:37:00 Does not support hiring a CAO 01:37:20 Close speaks - someone needs to make final decision - eg diciplinary decision 01:38:45 Jacksons asks if council couldn't be the go to person 01:39:15 McKenzie speaks - wants to put on hold 01:40:15 Thomas supports CAO - changing job descriptions should be left for CAO 01:41:00 Turner speaks - does act offer guidance 01:41:53 Clerk responds 01:42:25 Treasurer speaks - feels CAO is needed 01:43:20 McKenzie wants to hear report in closed so he can weigh facts 01:44:00 Jackson speaks about not having a MPW 01:44:30 Treasurer responds that Clerk has been managing PW 01:45:20 Mechanism still need to be in place 01:45:50 Turner can it be an HR type person 01:46:20 Clerk speaks not all managers are following policy - management team cannot reach concensus 01:47:28 Turner says council is supposed to provide direction 01:48:00 Close speaks - no one person making sure all is working 01:49:00 McKenzie wants more info - go to closed 01:49:24 back to open session 01:50:00 Bowman, are we withdrawing recommendation? 01:50:52 direction from closed - informative - another resolution 01:51:22 Close re-reads resolution asks for removal of first sentence 01:52:00 Close reads revised resolution - staff to continue with job descriptions and remuneration 01:53:55 carried 01:54:06 New resolution - Clerk assume duties of Clerk/Administrator for 3 months 01:54:30 Bowman wants compensation to begin immediately 01:55:40 Close clarifies that this makes Clerk the 'boss' taking over CAO authority 01:56:15 carried 01:56:45 8.6 RFP for engineering services traffic signal control in Wiarton $100,000 01:57:30 Any questions 01:57:43 carried 01:57:33 8.7 pecuniary interest - Close steps aside 01:58:40 add Mike Ashcroft landscaping to approved vendor list 01:59:50 McKenzie asks if this is a special case 02:01:45 Jackson - does roster need to be updated? 02:02:15 carried 02:02:42 8.8 EDO requests support for Sauble Sandfest 02:03:25 Councillor Bowman questions if this is a cash request 02:04:00 McKenzie - town must provide letter of support 02:04:45 Cash has been requested 02:05:00 Until grants and donations are debated - Close wants in kind not cash 02:06:15 Standen does not support request at this time 02:07:11 Event does not appear to meet requirements 02:08:10 Close agrees to letter of support 02:08:40 Standen says we give them enough already 02:09:00 Bowman supports in-kind for Sandfest 02:10:25 McKenzie supports letter of support 02:11:00 Standen says pre-budget approval is requested 02:12:10 Turner asks Standen for clarification - documentation errors and details missing 02:13:10 Close application is not our responsibility 02:13:45 Change to 'in kind' 02:14:40 carried 02:15:00 8.9 EDO Sauble Beach Trillium Application 02:15:31 carried 02:15:49 8.10 Transfer from reserve for WSIB - benefits paid 02:16:20 what happens if we don't agree, workman's compensation 02:17:00 Jackson - what is administrative charge? 02:17:30 Jackson - January 17, brought forward to cover this claim 02:18:08 Jackson - Letter Jan 10, Anette Robson objecting to this decision 02:19:00 Jackson - July 17 paralegals to fight this claim 02:19:31 Close was there a breach in personnel file 02:15:45 Jackson was a resolution ever passed to fight this 02:20:16 Close wants investigation - personal private confidential information 02:21:00 Jackson - where is resolution to hire a lawyer to fight this claim 02:22:20 Jackson wants deferred and full report from staff on this issue 02:24:00 Payment has been made - transfer is to top up $15,700 ... 3% 02:25:03 carried 02:25:20 Jackson puts something forward 02:25:50 Staff bring back report on WSIB claim 02:26:15 McKenzie understands concern - can this be done without Dan being here? 02:26:48 Close has grave concerns regarding personal and confidential information 02:27:28 Closed session for report 02:27:45 carried 02:28:07 8.11 annual grant payment be paid with transfer from reserves 02:28:50 carried 02:29:07 8.12 monthly financial report 02:29:30 Jackson questions info center salary - sauble info center 02:30:50 no idea 02:31:44 Clerk - perhaps grass and snow removal 02:32:45 carried 02:33:00 8.13 Stop signs at intersections 02:22:30 carried 02:33:45 8.14 Traffic control 02:34:11 Jackson asks questions of MLEO - is there some place else to park 02:35:30 carried 02:35:35 8.15 MLEO report 02:36:00 Jackson asks about situation on lakeshore bulldozed trailer 02:37:00 property standards order - 30 day notice 02:38:00 Bowman - dogs on sauble beach - any report coming forward re changes? 02:38:40 Thomas - chesley lake - MLEO does not have enough time - took holidays in summer 02:40:18 Sept 30 is the final date for compliance 02:41:07 carried 02:42:20 Carol excused 02:41:40 supper break 1/2 hour 02:42:12 8.16 Purchasing policy - add list of people 02:43:15 carried 02:43:29 8.17 Fire statistics 02:44:00 carried 02:44:13 8.18 CBO report septic reinspection update 02:44:50 Bowman supports having it contracted out; have we purchsed equipment? a vehicle and supplies have been purchased. 02:46;25 Would RFP be identical or revised ... pretty much the same 02:47:12 Jackson new or used? it is a used vehicle 02:48:18 carried 02:48:30 8.19 Regulate and control speed 02:49:08 carried 02:49:20 Jackson asks question after the vote 02:50:15 8.20 108 Beech Street heritage designation 02:50:45 carried 02:51:50 9.1 Council composition 02:52:45 councillor Jackson has read document 02:53:28 Kirkland missing 02:53:50 Turner wants to proceed 02:54:06 Council 7 elected at large, Mayor, Deputy Mayor, and 5 councillors 02:55:05 Bowman wants to feel confident .. we have had enough public input 02:56:00 getting push back from public 02:56:20 Turner says there was enough time 02:56:45 Jackson say opportunity was there but little response received 02:57:15 Ballot went out and was for Ward system. 02:58:00 WRONG WRONG WRONG - vote was for WARD system 02:58:40 Jackson want council down to 5 03:00:00 Savings to be redistributed to remaining councilors 03:00:50 Turner wants more $$$ 03:01:10 Close wants Mayor, Deputy Mayor, and 3 councillors; Jackson agrees 03:02:00 Turner wants at-large decision made 03:02:30 McKenzie sees advantage of Ward system 03:03:13 Areas are distinct in strategic plan 03:05:55 tie - defeated 03:10:30 should Deputy Mayor be elected separately? 03:11:50 Turner why do we have to follow dictate of county council 03:14:17 Jackson likes roving chair idea 03:16:15 5 members elected at large - Mayor, Deputy Mayor, and 3 councillors 03:17:08 carried 5 to 3 03:18:09 Bylaws 03:18:30 carried 03:19:00 3rd reading carried 03:19:20 No matters of urgency 03:19:35 Notice of Motion - Jackson 03:21:40 support proposed mini-golf in Wiarton across from Bluewater Park 03:24:20 vote to debate at current meeting 03:26:00 Close and Turner vote no - motion carried 03:26:21 debate on motion 03:28:10 zoning bylaw change needed 03:28:55 last CBO thought it was ok 03:29:00 Jackson wants to expedite 03:29:45 Close says zoning trumps any resolution 03:34:50 deferred to next meeting 03:35:00 No public meetings 03:35:10 Committee reports from councillors 03:35:40 Ad Hoc committee - preliminary water testing results and Dr Crowe's presentation 03:36:15 Heritage committee 03:36:40 County council 03:37:00 Emergency Exercise in October 03:37:15 County roads 03:38:00 Upcoming meetings 03:39:42 Unfinished Business 03:42:50 Confirm Prooceedings 03:43:04 carried 03:43:15 Adjourn - carried